“Look, I worked for Apple. There’s a lot of people who believe that Apple is exploitative in a way that is horrific. You know? We all have our lines that we are willing to cross. We get into a problem when we’re unforgiving, in any way – we offer no grace. And that doesn’t mean I don’t have lines that I draw that if people cross it, I wont do. But I do try to not be so rigid in the way that I think society has become….
I love a good argument. I love different points of view in all facets of things. But I also love grace. I’ve got people in my family that are to the right of Attila the Hun, and when people tell me ‘How can you platform that person on your show?’ I go: ‘I platform my uncle every f* Thanksgiving.’ And by the way, I love him. He’s a 3-dimensional human being who has qualities that I really admire – things about him. And we’ve lost that, we’ve lost the ability to love people, because we litmus test at every point, in every single moment.”